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CK
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posted September 20, 2002 04:15 AM     Profile for CK   Email CK     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
First of all, it wasn't this bad when I was using 8MB flash rom a couple of years ago.
I've purchased 16MB Flash Kit from Vital Tech on ZZounds.com, a few days ago. When I was trying to load up a sample to Flash Memory, it said 'Flash memory erasing...' and froze(or maybe doing something forever). I turned off Ex5, re-initialized, and then tried it again. Same thing happened. Then I loaded up a sample to DRAM, and then tried to copy that sample to Flash Memory, it said 'Executing'.. and it's STILL EXECUTING. (been doing that for more than 5 hours)
Please help. Am I missing something, or could it be a bad flash kit?

[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: ck ]

[ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: ck ]


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CK
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posted September 20, 2002 04:36 AM     Profile for CK   Email CK     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Does it have anything to do with my OS version?
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Ski
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posted September 20, 2002 08:48 AM     Profile for Ski   Email Ski     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm unaware of any "copy WAVE to Flash" related OS issues, but I wouldn't rule it out. If you have anything older than OS 1.0c, UPGRADE!

Sounds like you may have a bad Flash kit, though. Why don't you re-initialize your EX5 again (hold the exit button upon power up). Then get back to basics - try to load a relatively small .S1M (WAVE) file into Flash (maybe something like the "Armenian Duduk" .S1M). If that works, then power off/on, load the .S1M into *DRAM*, and try copying a WAVE (*NOT* an individual SAMPLE) from DRAM to Flash. If that works, THEN try copying an individual Sample from DRAM to Flash. If all that works, you're fine. If it doesn't work, I'd open up your EX and ensure that the Flash SIMMS are aligned and seated properly.

Your problems aside, I HIGHLY recommend that you don't bother with copying WAVES and/or Samples to or from Flash. Flash memory is SLOW, and the Flash memory management in the EX5 is rather poor, especially when you start deleting Samples from Flash. BY FAR the best way to work is to master your new creations in DRAM, then save your work to disk as an .S1M file (you want a backup anyway, right?!), THEN load the .S1M into Flash. You'll find that your work goes MUCH faster in DRAM, and that loading entire .S1M files into Flash is much simpler.

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CK
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posted September 21, 2002 01:22 AM     Profile for CK   Email CK     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you so much for your help and information. I've tried everything I could and I'm still in the middle of nowhere.(I tried to load a 100KB S1M, and, it's been erasing flash memory for FIFTEEN HOURS!) I guess I've got a bad Flash kit.(In fact I ran a system check and the flashrom status was 'NG/None')
'Guess I should return this part very quick. And after all this, I think I'm going back to 8MB kit for this time. Well, in fact that's all I need to load up my piano sample.
I'm posting classified ad wanting for 8MB kit... Thanks again Ski.

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posted September 21, 2002 01:50 AM     Profile for R Cyberfinger   Email R Cyberfinger     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey ck. Havenīt you received any kind of advises from your EXīs display? Several months ago I had a problem īn I couldnīt know what was wrong. The Yamaha technician found that it was only a false contact, but the behaviour of my ex5r was very unstable before fixing. After that, no more problems...no one.

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CK
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posted September 21, 2002 04:39 AM     Profile for CK   Email CK     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Renato,

Hmm... I didn't see anything strange or unstable behavior of ex5, in comparison with what it was before I installed 16MB flash kit. But maybe I really should tried to clean up the slots and put 'em in again...

Thank you for the info.


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dave b
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posted September 21, 2002 11:33 AM     Profile for dave b   Email dave b     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It can't hurt to remove, then re-install the flash modules. I've had flash ram probs due to a poor connection before. You could even try wiping some alcohol on the module's contacts to remove oxidation.

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Jim
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posted September 22, 2002 10:04 AM     Profile for Jim   Email Jim     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi ck, if your flash is showing up as NG/None it is either bad or not seated correctly. It's always worth removing and reseating as it can be a bit tricky to get them seated properly especially with tight SIMMS.

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posted September 23, 2002 11:44 AM     Profile for E   Email E     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Run a diagnostic on your memory. Press [voice]+[8]+[h] ([voice]+[6]+[9] on ex5r). It will tell you hwat OS/tg version you have. You can also start an auto or manual diagnostic test. It will tell you if anything is amiss.

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