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Topic: CS6X voices for the EX5
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Ski
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posted November 19, 2003 10:30 AM
Mykel, I don't know where you got any "CS6x sounds for the EX5", because I'm unaware of any. Could you give us a clue? The EX5 should be capable of emulating most CS6x Voices VERY closely, though. The CS6x shares much of the EX5's AWM engine and ROM samples. Send me a CS6x, and I'll be happy to clone some of the Voices for you!  [ November 19, 2003: Message edited by: Ski ] ____________________ Ski www.ex5tech.com
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Mykel
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posted November 20, 2003 01:16 PM
yeah I believe it may have been Rhythm Wheels, that sounds right. So I guess the CS6x is not as advanced as I thought it is, if some of its sounds came from the SY77 or the DX7... I know there were a couple others that I had on my CS6x, but they probably came from earlier synths as well. And trust me, if you have an EX5 you don't need a CS6x... It's got good real time control but can't nearly stand up to the sound of the ex5.. I don't regret the decision I've made with the tradeoff, the only reason I ask for a CS6x soundset is because my band used a lot of sounds from that in our songs, and our first show is this December, so if I can't get some of those sounds back, I have to partially rewrite the songs. =/
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Ski
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posted November 20, 2003 01:42 PM
Mykel, if you don't like to program Voices yourself, I'd recommend you start downloading. There are tons of great Voice and Voice/Sample collections on our EX5Tech EXclusive Downloads page, and in the EX5/R/7 files section at AMPFEA (see the links toward the upper left of a forum summary screen). I'd be shocked if you couldn't find something that suits your needs well.If you tell us specifically what you're looking for, I'm sure a bunch of members would pop in with suggestions of specific Voices, and Voice set to find them in. ____________________ Ski www.ex5tech.com
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posted November 20, 2003 01:49 PM
I don't know if it will be of any use, but I have a CS6X! It still has all the stock voices on it, so give me the names of the voices you used regularly, and I can check them out, and maybe be able to point you to some of the custom EX voice sets that would have similarities.I'm not much of a programmer, so I doubt I could re-program the EX for every cs6x voice you're looking for. But, the cs6x voice editor would show what some of the programmed parameters are for those voices. Other than the lack of numerous dedicated knobs and the corresponding scenes, anything the cs6x could do, the EX should be able to handle, if not better. However, from a performance standpoint, if you were tweaking lots of knobs, using the arpeggiator on/off switch, there are some things the EX won't be able to do like the cs6x. ____________________ E!
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Ski
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posted November 20, 2003 10:24 PM
Check the "Disk Mode" section in the owners manual:Page 260 explains the file types. Page 261 explains basic steps for disk operation. Page 263 details the "File Save" routine. Page 265 details the "File Load" routine. Regarding the Factory Disks... there are only FOUR factory disks, not fourteen. I'm guessing that you're mixing these up with the "Bonus Disks". In the owners manual again, take a look at page 25, which explains the usage of the factory disks. Page 27 specifically talks about "Restoring the Factory Set Data" (Voices, Performances, etc.). All this stuff in the manual comes complete with illustrations of EX5 screen shots, making it pretty easy to follow. ____________________ Ski www.ex5tech.com
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J. Westwood
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posted November 21, 2003 09:40 AM
As for the PATTERNS, just load my set from PATTERN in the disk menu. You'll get used to 'extensions' soon with the EX5. But once loaded, you can select a Drum Kit in Voice Mode, go to Pattern and simply press PLAY then. Scroll through all my different patterns, and hopefully find a few you like? Performace Mode - you'll have to assign a Drum Kit to (preferably) Slot 1, and STORE. Then you can use PATTERN just like you did in Voice Mode. And of course you can add basses, synths, brass, etc. to Performance slots 2-16 as you wish, and build up an 'orchestra'.  Good luck!
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Ski
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posted November 21, 2003 03:14 PM
Kia - Congrats on your purchase, and welcome to EX5Tech.There are lots of free high quality Voice and Voice/Sample sets available here at EX5Tech, and at AMPFEA. Look for the links to our "EXclusive Downloads Page" and "AMPFEA/Samplelibrary EX" toward the upper left of our forum summary screens. If you'd like a nice piano or two, try my "Simplicity Vol. II" release (at AMPFEA), and my "Ski BOATS" release (here at EX5Tech). I think you'll like them, and if not, there are others you can download as well. Don't miss the fact that almost all of my Voices have a full complement of controller routings, and I believe almost all my Piano Voices have two or three knobs dedicated to EQ, i.e. the Voices are very "tweakable" with the controls. Here is a direct link to the download page for my "Simplicity Vol. II": http://www.ampfea.org/files.php?com=i_view&type=11&t=829 And here's the link to our "EXclusive Downloads Page" where you can find "Ski BOATS": http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=download_page In the future, with a question like this, I'd recommend starting a NEW topic here in the "Voices/Samples" forum, and calling it something like "Pianos on the EX5". I think that will get you many more responses than posting the question as a REPLY in a "CS6x Voices" topic. Make sense? BTW, I just love the mental image of a drummer being scared by the VL trumpet!  [ November 21, 2003: Message edited by: Ski ] ____________________ Ski www.ex5tech.com
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posted November 21, 2003 03:55 PM
Yeah, drummers are usually the source of the scare! When you're setting up, they're banging away...nothing like throwing out your back because right when you're lifting out your keyboard, they just just gotta make sure the cymbal still sounds after transport. Scarier still are the tempo changes I did an outdoor wedding reception during the summer...we played almost the whole gig without knowing I wasn't in the house. The second to last song, Power of Love, 1...2..1..2..3.....I hit the right chords, we heard a slight anny-brass stab, but it wasn't coming throuhg the house. Turns out the band heard my amp/monitor, so we thought all was well. During sound check, my rig had a buzz, so just after sound check I was placed in different channels at the snake...buzz gone...little did he know it was because my entire signal was gone! It turned out the channels I had been plugged into weren't plugged into the mixer, they had been unplugged to make way for some 1/4's used on a previous gig for something else.......... bummer is, I'm the backup keys (main guy is related), and I haven't been called since, even though it wasn't my fault! ____________________ E!
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J. Westwood
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posted November 21, 2003 06:48 PM
Well, the EX Piano's are 'debateable' to say the least. Ski, Gody'n, myself and many other members have taken stabs at improving the internal AWM piano voices. Ski and all have done well IMHO, and the EX pianos are good for banging a few chords in the background or upfront for a few measures or so. But if you're doing Tori Amos or Billy Joel type solo piano things, I strongly advise you check out the VR Sounds EX5 Piano CD-ROM. It's 5-6 actual sampled Bossendorfer's, Steinways, and Baldwin pianos I believe? (Wait a minute, I can reach over and get the CD right here...) Hey, I was right! But this CD-ROM really turns the EX into a 'full controlled piano'. The load is HUGE! (64MB?) - so make sure you get lots of RAM. And make sure you start loading it about 3 hours before the show. (Good ol' SCSI ain't to fast you see - takes actually about 45min)I'm not a 'piano man' per say, but I think anyone who is would find it hard to find fault with VR Sounds VREX5.Pianos. www.vrsound.com
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leethal
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posted January 10, 2004 07:28 PM
I just wanna bring back the Issue of the EX Piano just for a Second.I used ALOT of Piano in my last Road Gig, and I gotta tell ya, Ski's Piano Patches where the Best OUT There PERIOD!! To give ya a idea, My rig has a Korg Karma, a Triton Studio, a K2600, and outta all that the EX (with Ski's "Skiano" Loaded in) Beat the Piano on all of them. we Actually had a Real Piano on stage also and I STILL had to play the Damn Parts, cause the EX sounded so much Better (of Cause, our Soundman Liked mixing that instead of a Mic'ed Piano Too... The Lazy Slob!!! ) I'm not much of a Sound Programer Myself. Unlike someone like MarcE, I can't seem to Bulid a Patch from Scrath and come up with Something REALLY COOL! My Sounds tend to be "Tweeked" verisons of Patches I've Downloaded (Mostly from Here ) and just fit them to more of what I need. But I've Spent Many a Fun Hours, coming up with Weird/Funny Soundcapes and Annoying the Old Folks Next Door with them
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