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Lachoza
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posted April 16, 2002 12:49 PM     Profile for Lachoza   Author's Homepage   Email Lachoza     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Man, I had no idea these synths were capable of such versatility. Who needs a Motif or Triton. Our boards are still right up there sound wise. I actually think the EX has a warmer more analog sound than the Tritons especially with these new voices. SkiRhodes is all that! Finally gets rid of the cheesy tinny sounding higher notes like the ones on the factory Randy Rhodes and actuall has dynamics like the real thing. Ski, is there any way to get a little more overdriven sound with Ski Rhodes or will I need a stomp box? I saw that no INS effects were available there probably because of the intensive DSP it's using. Sounds great nonetheless. I can't belive how realistic "Brush Em" sounds. Just like a Martin acoustic. Very nice work guys. Keep up the great work. I have a totally new appreciation for my EX now! It's like a new synth.
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Derek Cook
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posted April 16, 2002 01:00 PM     Profile for Derek Cook   Email Derek Cook     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Have you tried any of the MarcE releases on SampleLibrary?

They provide some of the best sounds I have ever heard!

If you like mel-labs, just wait until you get the sample ram and hear it for real!

Torus, certainly made some great guitars in MEL-LABS. My personal favourite is "Dark and Grey", which is a beautiful nylon guitar sound (complete with string squeak, courtesy of a Mellotron cello sample!). You can hear the sound on my MarcE tribute song.

I use my EX live, and it's the only synth I need.

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Lachoza
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posted April 16, 2002 02:52 PM     Profile for Lachoza   Author's Homepage   Email Lachoza     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What do you mean "wait until you get the sample RAM and hear it for real"? Is that the 16mb of Waves that are included with Mel Labs? Are those voices as well? I don't understand what those waves are for. Sampling?
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J. Westwood
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posted April 16, 2002 03:09 PM     Profile for J. Westwood   Email J. Westwood     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ohh Lacoza, you need to get some RAM, man!
Much of the 'Mel Lab's' crew, Ski especially - painstakingly recreates the Mellotron with REAL Mellotron samples! A quick overview for you - a sample is a recorded sound of something, a piano, a guitar, a mellotron, etc. BUT you can only play that sample so far on a keyboard before it sounds 'silly' (sometimes it can be cool)
So another sample has to be made of higher notes of the piano, and lower note samples as well. Then you 'zone' each sample on the keyboard - low samples onto lower keys, mid samples on middle keys, high on high. This assembly is then called a WAVE, in Yamaha speak. No easy feat by any means, and requires a definate talent, which thankfully many users here have - and Ski went all out for the Mel Lab's release. He not only understood the slow SCSI issue, but that many users don't have alot of RAM or Flash. He painstakingly whittled everything down to 16MB without (to me) any loss in realism and quality.

I would strongly advise searching for our member known as E! here, and get in touch with him to buy some 16MB Flash RAM - it's kinda expensive, but your EX will love you for it.


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posted April 16, 2002 06:36 PM     Profile for E   Email E     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

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Morpheus
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posted April 16, 2002 07:23 PM     Profile for Morpheus   Author's Homepage   Email Morpheus     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Where do I get the Mel Labs voices your are talking about?

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drb
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posted April 16, 2002 10:15 PM     Profile for drb   Email drb     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Morpheus,

Many good EX things at
http://www.ampfea.org/sln/

drb

[ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: drb ]


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Derek Cook
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posted April 17, 2002 03:48 PM     Profile for Derek Cook   Email Derek Cook     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Lachoza,

I assumed when I made the statement in my last post (without explaining) that you were listening to Mel-labs lite, or the voices in mel-labs which use stock EX samples.

As JW says, most of the MEL-LABS patches use custom samples that are stored in a 16MB S1M file which is either loaded into FLASH or RAM. You then load the appropriate S1V file.

As JW said, Ski did an astounding job on the samples, and Ski and Torus did an even more amazing job on filling 256 voices with authentic and not so authentic Melotron voices. I provided a few patches myself, JW and Torus provided two drum kits, and I wrote some words.

All in all an awesome package.

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Derek Cook


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Ski
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posted April 17, 2002 07:03 PM     Profile for Ski   Email Ski     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Derek's memory is faltering a bit. (Funny, it's usually MY memory that's faltering!)

There are actually 325 unique Voices in the MEL-LABS release. Pick up the MEL-LABS "Starter Kit", and you'll get yet a few more Voices that aren't in the main release.

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piper
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posted April 18, 2002 12:23 PM     Profile for piper   Email piper     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

Guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. I thought the starter kit was a subset. Didn't know (or forgot) there were some extra voices.

Now which zip disk did I put that on...


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Derek Cook
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posted April 18, 2002 03:36 PM     Profile for Derek Cook   Email Derek Cook     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok, Ok, so I forgot about the second S1V file!

The memory is definitely going.

Who am I?

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